Talking Headways Podcast: Code and Clay, Data and Dirt

Interview with Shannon Mattern, author of Code and Clay, Data and Dirt

A breathtaking tour through thousands of years of urban life and its attendant technologies, rewriting the history of our cities

Author Shannon Mattern joins the podcast this week to discuss her new book, Code and Clay, Data and Dirt. Shannon is a professor of media studies at the New School in New York City, and she tells us why she wanted to teach about the intersection of her discipline with architecture and cities.

We talk about why the perfect future interface humans are looking for does not exist, and how digital mapping can overlook important aspects of the urban spatial landscape.


Listen to the whole interview.